Common questions and answers regarding California Passthrough Entity Tax (PTE) Information for 1120S returns

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  • 01/17/2024

Objectives

What are some common questions and answers regarding California passthrough entity tax election in S-Corporation returns?

Environment

  • CCH® ProSystem fx® Tax
  • CCH Axcess™ Tax
  • Partnership – 1120S
  • Worksheet View – WSV
  • Interview Forms - IVF

Details

QuestionAnswer
-Form Name
  • Form 3804, Pass-Through Entity Elective Tax Calculation 
  • Combined with the Form 165
-State Links
  • https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/2022/2022-3804-instructions.html
  • https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/2022/2022-3804-instructions.html
Election for PTE
-Is an Election Required?
  •  Yes.
-Made when?
  • It is made on a timely filed original tax return and the estimated payment must have been made by June 15 (for taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 2022 and before January 1, 2026). 
-How do we make this election?
  • Filing the Form 3804   
-Option  to Opt-Out?
  • Yes
Generation of State PTE Return
-How do we generate the form above?
  • Worksheet View:  Common State/City > State PTE Generation (PTE-ST1) OR on CA Other Information > 3804-Pass-Through Entity Elective Tax Calculation
  • Interview View: PTE-ST1  OR on CA CA27
-Is this a separate filing from the main form, part of the main form, or filed on it's own?
  • Separate from the main form
Estimates
-Are there estimates for this form?
  • Yes
    Form 3893 (PTE) Pass-Through Entity Elective Tax Payment Voucher (Payment 1 due 6/15 and Payment 2 due 3/15)
-How do we generate them?
  • They will automatically generate when activating Form 3804. The vouchers amounts can be changed or suppressed by using the override inputs noted below

  • Worksheet View:  CA 592-PTE, 3893 (PTE), Form (PTE) Pass-Through Entity Elective Tax Payment Voucher
  • Interview View: CA26A, Form 3893 (PTE) Pass-Through Entity Elective Tax Payment Voucher  

-Can you apply an overpayment from the current year form?
  • No
Interest/Penalties
-Do interest/penalties apply?
  • No (Software does not calculate interest & penalties)
-If yes, how do we request the calculation?
  • N/A
-Is there an underpayment penalty?
  • N/A
Additional PTE Information
-Does this section apply to this state?
  • No
Additional Input Available
- Does new input options under State and City Tax Refund flow to the state?
  • Yes if based on income
- Does new input options under Taxes and Licenses flow to the state?
  • Yes if based on income
- Does new input options under Rent/Royalty flow to the state?
  • Yes
- Does the new input options under Farm flow to the state?
  • Yes



 

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